- Just who are all of the people defaulting on their home loans in America.?
- How do people get home loans for like $200 even $300K and have monthly payments for less than $1000 a month?
- Does anyone know of a good bank I can refinance my student loans for smaller monthly payments?
- Does anyone know of a company that gives home loans to people with BAD credit?
Does anyone blame the people who got home loans and didn’t pay their monthly payments, or just me?
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abbinana™
July 22, 2010 at 8:26 am
I DO
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tooinvolved1
July 22, 2010 at 9:10 am
yeah but I also blame the lenders. Some people were just unsophisticated, some greedy…the lenders knew full well what was going on
PJ
July 22, 2010 at 9:53 am
I do. There is plenty of blame to go around. I don’t really care if those people lose their houses, they made bad decisions. We shouldn’t reward stupidity.
Jackie
July 22, 2010 at 10:33 am
I do too.
ambiguous_anomaly
July 22, 2010 at 11:25 am
I do. Predatory lending practices and political correctness played a part as well, but when you take on the loan, the borrower is ultimately responsible.
RexBlitzen
July 22, 2010 at 12:19 pm
I think it was stupid for the Clinton administration to give these people loans in the first place because they can’t afford them.
TyranusXX
July 22, 2010 at 12:44 pm
Yes but only to a small degree. If that was the only problem then this would not be such a big issue. But when these mortgages were turned into “mortgage backed securities” this is where the vast amount of money was lost
Ed
July 22, 2010 at 12:45 pm
NO. Blame irresponsible lenders. They had the power to investigate their ability to pay, and ought to have refused. They also have been giving increasingly huge mortgages in terms of multiple of salary.
Paul Grass
July 22, 2010 at 1:20 pm
I do as they knew they were in over their head and now we have to pay, the welfare mentality
Jack X
July 22, 2010 at 2:06 pm
They share some responsibility. Not as much as the people who offered the money to people who couldn’t pay it back and then acted all surprised and shit when the people couldn’t, you know, pay it back…
Tip#1: People are stupid.
Tip#2: Taking advantage of that stupidity is inherently worse than being taken advantage of, because the person taking the advantage, by definition, knows better.
Keith
July 22, 2010 at 2:27 pm
Amazes me that people can risk a down payment and sign for a loan that any moron will tell them they can’t afford. Clearly their fault no matter how fast talking the loan officer was.
Gwyn of Graphite Land
July 22, 2010 at 2:29 pm
YES – I blame them, too. Their foreclosures are a broken promise by them to pay for a product. From there, the effects rippled outwards …
Coolmama
July 22, 2010 at 2:44 pm
I totally blame the people who took the loan. People want it all and they want it now so they charge and charge and then they cannot pay for it. I blame people for having poor money management. That is why I am starting to teach my kids at a young age that if you have to charge it you probably cannot afford it so don’t get it!
Special K
July 22, 2010 at 2:58 pm
You mean and “couldn’t” pay their monthly payments. Do you really think people choose to be homeless? The job market is worse than it has ever been, people who make minimum wage can even buy gas to get to work, they may have been laid off. Do be so judgemental. You need to know individual circumstances to make judgements such as those.
I know for a fact that some of the lenders lied. Covered up rate increases after a certain amount of time. One person I know worked for “Country Wide”. He said when they had customers come in and sign the loans, they were told to lay their pen on the sentence that said there interest rate would go up in 1 year. Some of these lenders were crooked.
Most Americans are one paycheck away from bankruptcy. We live off credit, that is what is wrong with this country. Take care of yourself and teach your children to live within their means.
justagirl
July 22, 2010 at 3:18 pm
Of course. But I also know it’s possible for good people to be suckered into bad loans. And ultimately, whether they made poor decisions or not, I hold the people who sold them those loans -knowing good and well they weren’t capable of paying them, all in the interest of making money for themselves – more responsible. But then I happen to think following ethical business practices ought to be worth something. And the fact is, we can’t unwrite those loans. We can’t undo the deals that bundled bad loans together with good ones to be sold on the stock market. We can’t go back in time and change any of that. We can only address the situation from this point forward.
little mama
July 22, 2010 at 3:57 pm
I do.
Louis666KWu
July 22, 2010 at 4:27 pm
There are a lot of reasons people don’t pay their mortgages. Serious illness which insurance doesn’t cover, job loss, downsizing, restructuring… It’s a perfect storm when here in America, in 2008 (and we’re not done) 650,000 jobs have been permanently lost thus far. That number may mean as many as 500,000 mortgages going unpaid because those people can’t find new jobs. They’ve all been outsourced and shipped overseas.
Nut Job Anchor for MSNBC
July 22, 2010 at 4:56 pm
Me too!
RachelS
July 22, 2010 at 5:23 pm
Yes! And now they want help! So if I buy something I know I can not afford and do it anyways, the govt. has to come bail me out! F that. Too stupid to read a loan agreement or lazy to figure out monthly bills – live on the street. Just as guilty as the CEOs greed and stupidity at the cost of hurting their own country!
farahwonderland2005
July 22, 2010 at 5:34 pm
Their jobs went to India and Philippines. Yes, they made a decision to take a home loan and the mortgage company made an equally bad decision. I blame the mortgage company more because they knew what they were doing. It’s their business and specialty.
50% of home foreclosures are due to enormous medical bills. When America finally gets a national health plan, you’ll see less bankruptcies.
Fink Ployd
July 22, 2010 at 6:25 pm
I think everyone likes to lay blame. Mostly on others and not themselves. Not saying that you should have any reason to blame yourself. But don’t worry about other people. Worry about yourself. The people who couldn’t pay their monthly payments have a lot more to worry about than you do so just be grateful your not in that situation. But if it was you in that situation would you want everyone to blame you? I think not. Mind your business.
Sahara
July 22, 2010 at 6:44 pm
No. They are not financial experts. They were taken by greedy real estate agents, greedy lawyers, greedy appraisers, and greedy mortgage agents and their bosses. I blame unethical practices for this mess we are in.
edit: I’ve been advocating for financial education for all citizens since 1998.
Agent Smith
July 22, 2010 at 7:28 pm
Just you.
You cons want to create a peasant state where nobody deserves a home except wealthy aristocrats.
MarkGoldSports
July 22, 2010 at 8:06 pm
I lost my job 1 year after I bought a nice new house. I could was quailfied for a 650K loan. I got a 350K loan put 20% down but now I can’t make more than 10 bucks an hour if I’m lucky. I was making an average of 130K the last 5 years before I lost my job. Now all my equity is gone and my 350K house is worth about 210K. I could rent the same place for 1200 a month but I’m stuck in a payment of 2,200. The bank should work with people like me, I played by the rules I put 20% down. Then my company closes down. I guess I deserve to live in a tent.
lonnie h
July 22, 2010 at 8:38 pm
I do
Jesus Quintana
July 22, 2010 at 9:27 pm
no, i blame 3/4 of the american people for being dumb and stupid for the last 80-100 years. they are the people responsible for our country being like this. keep voting idiots into office who keep taking ur freedoms away and scaring you into believing there’s a boogie man in ur back yard. we are getting exactly what we deserve.
ScorpioDuo
July 22, 2010 at 9:43 pm
With the economy going down and people loosing jobs.. I think its a common scene when you cannot pay your monthly payments for your house..
Consider this– you have a satisfactory job at a company like Lehman brothers and hence you buy a house with a 2500$ monthly payment… But in an year, the company closes down and you have no money now…
Hence you have no choice now, but to not to pay the installments….
Can you pay 2500$ to live in a house without a job ….
Hope i answered the “why” part of your question…
evader23
July 22, 2010 at 10:11 pm
ME
fuk y
July 22, 2010 at 10:35 pm
That is a pretty broad statement. you can blame the people who due to economic downfall lost there jobs and couldn’t keep up on the bills no matter how hard they try and ended up losing there home. Or you can blame the democratic bill that gave people unqualified for loans loans for homes because it was only fair. Or you could blame the president for not passing a bill to save peoples homes quick enough.
The sad fact is a lot of people that lost their homes were hard working people that lost there jobs and couldn’t find a new one that payed enough to Support there bills. Instead of feeling mad at those people why not feel bad for them they lost their home their kids lost their home and now they live in a cramped apartment somewhere all because a few corporate people decided these are the jobs we don’t need or these workers are close to retirement lets fire them so we don’t have to pay the severance.
Marilyn R
July 22, 2010 at 11:09 pm
I blame mortgage brokers who were shoving pieces of paper under peoples’ noses, not fully explaining the terms and that after a certain time, the rates on an ARM go up, not down. I blame a lot of them for not doing income checks to see if individuals could actually make the payments.
I also blame those people who thought, if I buy a house today, I can sell it for double tomorrow, because bubbles never burst.
I blame people who think that the way to live is on credit and purchase utterly useless items like big screen tvs and gas guzzling cars. They never think that the day will come and the house of cards will collapse.
I blame those who refuse to live within their means, who feel this compulsion to keep up with everyone else, who feel their lives are not complete if they do not have the hottest video system or vacations to expensive resorts. And then they complain when a job or lost or suddenly bankcruptcy is on the horizon.
I blame what America has become – too focused on the material, while forgetting what really counts and that it can’t be bought or sold.
johnqpublic321
July 22, 2010 at 11:59 pm
Do you think they have a choice?
bloodbath
July 23, 2010 at 12:36 am
Anyone can ask for a loan., but the bank should not lend to people who can’t pay. This has ALWAYS been the case.
It is the banks’ fault
zorak
July 23, 2010 at 1:10 am
Hell yes.
When you are only making 40,000 a year and you get a home loan for 400,000 just to try to keep up with the Jones – well then the blame falls on you.
Allison, aka Nice Lady
July 23, 2010 at 1:43 am
I lay the blame three ways:
1/3 – govt for passing the stupid community reinvestment act in 1999 laying the groundwork for this.
1/3 – lenders who made the dumb loans
1/3 – borrowers who should have known better
Greg
July 23, 2010 at 2:01 am
You need to complete that thought. People who got home loans with little or no documentation, no down payments, and no real credit history or a questionable credit history.
How did that happen? Follow the money. The money didn’t evaporate: it went somewhere.
Despite all the defaults (the national average for subprime loans is 15%+, and 1.4% on Freddie and Fannie backed prime loans), that is only a portion of the losses mounting because the greater losses are on mortgage backed securities and their derivatives, sometimes purchased on margin, and this is magnifying the underlying mortgage problem, so if you are mad at people who can’t pay their mortgages, shouldn’t you be mad at AIG for not being able to pay their swaps? And what about the investment banks who cannot pay their bond holders?
ablex
July 23, 2010 at 2:22 am
The lenders made a bad investment. They are being bailed out.
The borrowers have lost their homes to foreclosure. They’re out not only their home, but the money they’ve already paid on the mortgage.
The lender now owns a home that’s worth less than they loaned for it. Bad investment. Big deal. No different than if I buy stock and the value takes a dive, or if I buy real estate for speculation and the market falls.
The government wouldn’t be offering me a handout to replace my losses. Same rules should apply to the wall street bailout.
BigD
July 23, 2010 at 3:13 am
I did at first
It all changed when I worked temporarilly on a project involving a major mortgage lender. This lender would give out loans and then package them into securities. How would it pay for these loans? They sold short term investments in the newspaper at high interest rates. Alot of senior citizens were attracted to these investments. Then the securities were sold to investors and the company stayed on as the servicer of the loans. (It is much more complex then that, this is just a very breif overview).
That worked great for a while, then home values started declining. The lender had trouble coming up with the money to pay off the investors. So what did they do? They sold MORE loans – in effect, paying debt with more debt.
The cycle spiraled out of control. This company, in a span of 5 years, went from tens of millions of $$ in mortgages to billions of dollars a year in mortgages (on paper it looked like assets, but it was all debt)
The company went belly up. The Board of Directors looted the company and the investors lost all their money.
So, who do i blame? Shady accounting practice and corporate greed.
Chris
July 23, 2010 at 3:39 am
Yes, you should be intelligent enough to know how much mortgage you can afford and not for a bank to tell you. So for me, having a mortgage and able to make my monthly payments in-turn have to bail-out those that got in over their head? That doesn’t seem fair. Granted there are extenuated circumstances for some (i.e. job termination, death, etc) but for those that over-extend themselves I don’t think the taxpayers should pay for it. The borrower and the bank are ones responsible not a third party (the taxpayer).
psycho_lycious
July 23, 2010 at 3:40 am
no,my dear,plenty of people blame them too. try listening to Tom Leykis- he talks trash about them ,quite often
the issue is these losers are not running a free market into the ground and getting more free money from us the taxpayers-so we don’t hate them as much as those greedy b@$tards on Wall Street-who need an unregulated market,like they need another hole in their head
happiest democrat
July 23, 2010 at 4:36 am
I really have never walked in their shoes so I can not judge them…If I was poor & worked my whole love & dreamed of owning my own home but never could & prayed for some opportunity to come along & someone at work said to me “guess what, we are not getting that 17 cent raise they promised we would get since last year” & then somone else said “well, I have been waiting for that raise so I could buy a house cause my landlord keeps raising my rent & won’t fix the heater, I am tired of catching colds are winter. I am going to do what my cousin did. He bought a house & he is renting out the basement to help pay for it. We can all own our own house & when we feel better we can leave this jobs where no one appreicates us……this kind of scene takes place all the time but much worst…so they get in & their car breaks down & they don’t get the better job they just borrow to buy a new car cause the repairs are costing the same as a payment & it is hard to live with a car in the shop…so they get in debt. & eventually they are really stressed…they never intended to hurt anyone. Just get a yard their kids could play in instead of a street with drive by shootings……..be thankful you don’t understand cause when you blame people like this it means you have never walked this hard path to walk….Lincoln was called a republican but the names have changed around since then so he would be a (D) today.